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keli · Aug 20, 2007, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by Alleji

I was a "PvP-crazy player" in GW. Mainly played HA but eventually got fed up with all the garbage anet kept putting out, threw the towel.

Been playing WoW for 4 or 5 months now. PvE is way better than GW and while I haven't had enough PvP experience yet (still don't have a 70, so haven't tried arenas) I like it quite a bit. Of course, 1v1 world PvP is fairly dumb because it's rock-paper-scissors, but battlegrounds are a lot of fun and with the exception of one glaring balance problem (hunters with their "god mode for pet" skill) Blizzard seems to be doing a better job than Anet.

Alleji @ Lethon (63 NE Rogue)
Ballard @ Bladefist (52 BE Mage)

Dont forget, anet guys made wow also.
And in gw we have thousands skillls in wow we have ~500

Shadow · Aug 20, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Err, correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the people who work for Anet had anything to do with WoW. They were on board during WC3, as I recall, but not during WoW.

Bryant Again · Aug 20, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by keli

Dont forget, anet guys made wow also.
And in gw we have thousands skillls in wow we have ~500

Don't forget to factor in the skills in Guild Wars that are duplicates and the skills that are very undesirable.

Redfeather1975 · Aug 20, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

There are over 1130 skills and only 30 of them are duplicates of existing skills.
Regardless of how many are not desirable, at least the option is there to play around with them.
Once I got into the higher levels in WoW and EQ2 and constantly kept tossing over in my mind whether I should just start a new character, because I was getting quite bored of using the same skills every day.
My PVE mesmer, that I use in PVP too often, has learned close to 400 skills by now. His build is rarely the same from one day to the next. He's schizo. I would never think of shelving him like I did my Warlock and Priest in WoW or my Inquisitor and Dirge in EQ2. There is just too much to play around with.

around · Aug 20, 2007, 09:23 AM // 09:23

I don't like the fact that there is no class depth in WoW. Every class uses the exact same skills within that class, and the talent spec is likely to be very similar. Too same-y.

At least GW gives you a choice of secondary to differentiate your character from others.

Bread Fan · Aug 20, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

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Originally Posted by spawnofebil

I don't like the fact that there is no class depth in WoW. Every class uses the exact same skills within that class, and the talent spec is likely to be very similar. Too same-y.

At least GW gives you a choice of secondary to differentiate your character from others.

You are so wrong. Sure Guild Wars has a ton of garbage skills out there but they only limit you to eight skills because they fail at proper skill balancing. It is an easy way out. Wow on the other hand entitles you to a tremendous amount of skills and you can also alter those by respeccing.

The staff at Anet think introducing extremely overpowered skills at each expansion is something players want. Sure that is fine to the PvE player and of course that in turn draws sales but the PvP player becomes frustrated because Anet is terrible at skill balancing.

I was in a top 25 guild guild back in the day and have since left to play wow as well as my guildies have and it is so much better than Guild Wars. GW tries so hard to be like WOW with each major update but the problem is they lost a lot of fan base already and their lies, pvp representation (is there any?) and lack of skill balancing will not bring me back to it or others I have talked to.

This do not pay to play. I would actually prefer to pay to play considering majority of GW are kids. WoW players seem to be a lot more mature and respectable.

Have a problem with something in the game? No problem, I submitted a ticket in game and had a response within seconds. A GM spoke with me hands on and helped me, I was floored how quick it was. Have a problem with GW? Email them and hope for a reply in the next couple days...

immortius · Aug 20, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by Shadow

Err, correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the people who work for Anet had anything to do with WoW. They were on board during WC3, as I recall, but not during WoW.

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Mike O'Brien, Co-Founder and Programmer, currently leads the design and content teams for Guild Wars. Previously, he was a company director of Blizzard, where he worked for more than four years. He was most recently the team lead and lead programmer of Warcraft III, for which he personally developed the game's 3D rendering engine. Mike was the original creator and architect of Battle.net and was lead programmer on that project. He was also a senior programmer on StarCraft and Diablo, as well as the author of the network code for both games, and was a programmer on Warcraft II. Mike was featured as one of the 25 most influential people in the game industry in PC Gamer's September 1999 cover story, "Game Gods".

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Jeff Strain, Co-Founder and Programmer, currently leads the production and art teams for Guild Wars. Prior to the founding of ArenaNet, Jeff was the team lead and lead programmer of Blizzard's massively multiplayer role-playing game, World of Warcraft. He was also a senior programmer on both Warcraft III and StarCraft, and a programmer on Diablo. Jeff was the creator of the StarCraft Campaign Editor and was employed at Blizzard for four years.

Jeff Strain was originally team lead for WoW. Mike O'Brien was team lead for WC3. They talked to each other and realised they both wanted something inbetween. Guild Wars was born. At least, that's what I remember reading.

Faer · Aug 20, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

World of Warcraft has organized CTF and KotH PvP. I mean, seriously, what more could anyone ask for?

Really though, you can probably play both. Guild Wars requires very little time investment unless you are really PvP-crazy (GvGing 8-12 hours and day and whatnot). You can go away from GW for a week or two and come back without losing too much of your skill. Enjoy the best of both worlds!

keli · Aug 20, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

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Originally Posted by Bread Fan

You are so wrong. Sure Guild Wars has a ton of garbage skills out there but they only limit you to eight skills because they fail at proper skill balancing. It is an easy way out. Wow on the other hand entitles you to a tremendous amount of skills and you can also alter those by respeccing.

The staff at Anet think introducing extremely overpowered skills at each expansion is something players want. Sure that is fine to the PvE player and of course that in turn draws sales but the PvP player becomes frustrated because Anet is terrible at skill balancing.

I was in a top 25 guild guild back in the day and have since left to play wow as well as my guildies have and it is so much better than Guild Wars. GW tries so hard to be like WOW with each major update but the problem is they lost a lot of fan base already and their lies, pvp representation (is there any?) and lack of skill balancing will not bring me back to it or others I have talked to.

This do not pay to play. I would actually prefer to pay to play considering majority of GW are kids. WoW players seem to be a lot more mature and respectable.

Have a problem with something in the game? No problem, I submitted a ticket in game and had a response within seconds. A GM spoke with me hands on and helped me, I was floored how quick it was. Have a problem with GW? Email them and hope for a reply in the next couple days...

sure gw has many garbage skills, but most of them are usable for builds

and 8 slot is because its easier to balance and require some more logic (i understad u dont like it) and all build wont be the same

Zinger314 · Aug 20, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by keli

sure gw has many garbage skills, but most of them are usable for builds

Most, as in greater than 50%? (i.e. more than 500)

What game are you playing?

Ghost Omel · Aug 20, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

Sometimes i wonder what WoW forums talk about couse we GW players find it amusing to argue what is better and in rweturn Get WoW posters in here to convert GW's into WoW's Just make a forum about whast batter i bet there alot of trash talkers from both sides instead of arguing give pros of GW and cons of GW and let him go to WoW forum and get Pros abnd Cons of the WoW there by the way any 1 of you know WoW forum i wana visit to confirm my findings any 1 i will gladly give you example of what they talk about GW there k

If you Love WoW go tlak there why talk here i believe this is GW SO we talk about GW couse i can find lots of Trash on WoW but do i say it nope its GW

Bryant Again · Aug 20, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

Sometimes i wonder what WoW forums talk about couse we GW players find it amusing to argue what is better and in rweturn Get WoW posters in here to convert GW's into WoW's Just make a forum about whast batter i bet there alot of trash talkers from both sides instead of arguing give pros of GW and cons of GW and let him go to WoW forum and get Pros abnd Cons of the WoW there by the way any 1 of you know WoW forum i wana visit to confirm my findings any 1 i will gladly give you example of what they talk about GW there k

There was a thread here a while ago where Zinger made a thread in the WoW forums linking to an article that said Guild Wars was the superior game. Here's the link.

Ghost Omel · Aug 20, 2007, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Its not that i agrre to that GW>WoW or WoW>GW its just the pooint why come here and litteralyTRY TO CONVERT GW players to play WoW its semmse like a desperate meashure or a punny try and kill of GW playerbase just for the sole reason to look good ibn their own eyes as they have acomplished somehtign big and important i have noticed that lot of poelpe try and make either games look bad Im just sayen like talk sht about the game on its forums is just disrespectfull

Saraphim · Aug 20, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Erm... cos some people play both, and can offer an opinion to the OP who was asking for advice on which to choose?

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Hello. I have a question, and I'd really like some input from people that have some amount of experience in both.

Both games have pros and cons. I play both, and like both, but don't have endgame experience in WoW as yet, so I haven't offered an opinion as there are others who can do so better.

Lol... Zinger's armoury page crashed my browser.

Sparda · Aug 20, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

I've been reading that forum thread.
And there was made a statement.
By the player who goes with the name Morithain (Second page)
And i think that that is the most stupid thing i ever heard.
Thats so child behavior.
I think that he is one of those WoW fanboys who play on mom/dad wallet.

Bryant Again · Aug 20, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

Its not that i agrre to that GW>WoW or WoW>GW its just the pooint why come here and litteralyTRY TO CONVERT GW players to play WoW its semmse like a desperate meashure or a punny try and kill of GW playerbase just for the sole reason to look good ibn their own eyes as they have acomplished somehtign big and important i have noticed that lot of poelpe try and make either games look bad Im just sayen like talk sht about the game on its forums is just disrespectfull

Yeah 'cus it's a forum, and sometimes people get angry. People also like to troll.

haggus71 · Aug 20, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

that was interesting. All the things we complain about(limited char growth, no auction house) were brought up.

That said, it was pretty much a mirror image of this thread. A bunch of initial defenses, a few defenders of GW, and a few comments of reasoning peppered in between endless flames.

Glad to know all gamers are consistent.:P

Commander Ryker · Aug 20, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

You only made it to a trial account and your already rating it?

Isn't that what a trial key is for?

I think comparing GW and WoW is like comparing apples and oranges. They are both fruit, but taste and look totally different.

HardWonFame · Aug 20, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

1400 hours worth of guild wars over 26 months, 500 hours of WoW across a pair of 50's both Horde side and Alliance.

WoW is the best MMORPG on the market.

Guild Wars is the greatest MMORPG alternative on the market.

If you are willing to pay 50 cents a night for a few hours of fun in a persistent-world MMO go for it. But when you get tired, burned out or poor there is always Guild Wars as a go-to game.

People who say that you cannot compare these games have no idea what they are talking about.

Bryant Again · Aug 20, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

Isn't that what a trial key is for?

For rating and judging the whole game? No.